SPCA are common thieves

I have lost what little respect I had left for the SPCA.

In their latest exploit they have stolen the meat from a Tongan man’s umu in Mangere, simply because someone at the SPCA didn’t like what they were eating.

Because it was a dog.

Now they are frustrated they can’t prosecute anyone for it because the dog was killed humanely. This is ridiculous. It is the SPCA themselves who should be prosecuted for common theft – taking meat for no reason (they themselves admit that it is completely legal to kill and eat your own animals), and offering no compensation or even apology.

So, because the law doesn’t let them dictate what meat you can eat, they now want more laws so they can prosecute people for this. Derek Haddy of the SPCA says “Unfortunately under the Animal Welfare Act, nothing covers what you can do with an animal after it is dead” – and wants the law updated. But hang on a minute – why should the Animal Welfare Act have anything to do with what happens after an animal is dead? An animal can’t suffer after it is dead, why shouldn’t you eat it then? And what moral standard are they using to dictate what meat is ok and what is not?

I shall now ignore the SPCA until they offer a formal apology and compensation for this blatant theft.

See also: “Let’s eat some dogs”

Child misbehaving in public? How not to smack.

You’d think with all the positive parenting tips the Yes Vote crowd have, they would have some way of stopping your child misbehaving in the supermarket. But this is their advice:Yes, you read that right. If they are playing up in public, just give in to them and go home. Forget about buying groceries today, you can eat crumbs until you can next afford to drive to town.

It makes you wonder how many of these people actually live in the real world.

[Cross-posted at Yes Vote FAIL]

Children’s views on smacking – Barnardos

Smacking – “It’s wrong, full stop” say children

Media release: Barnardos New Zealand 23 June 2009

…The debate around the Referendum ’09 on physical punishment has been widely debated by adults but who is listening to the voice of those who are at the centre of this debate – the children?

As New Zealand’s largest telephone helpline for children and young people, 0800WHATSUP provided an opportunity for children and young people to express their views about physical punishment and whether or not adults should be able to claim a legal defence if charged with assaulting a child.

“The initial results from the survey show that the majority of callers (more than 55 percent) do not think parents taken to court for hitting a child should be let off if they say they were disciplining the child”, says Murray Edridge, Chief Executive of Barnardos New Zealand.

“Despite this, comments from the children and young people who participated in the survey suggest many children are conditioned to expect and accept physical discipline from parents”

So:

  • If a child thinks parents should be prosecuted for smacking, their opinion is very important and should be listened to. BUT
  • If a child thinks otherwise, they have been “conditioned” to think so and their opinion is not valid.

The full report states that the children were asked “Do you think that adults who are taken to court for hitting a child should be let off if they say they were disciplining the child?”. Note the use of the emotive word “hit” here and throughout the messages read to the children. But even with such a leading question, only 55% of children said “hitting” for discipline was not ok. Probably even less than 50% would have said “smacking” was not ok.

In fact, most children recognise that there is a big difference between hitting and smacking, and that physical punishment may be appropriate in some circumstances. Note what the children actually said to the counsellors as reported by Barnardos themselves:

  • (Counsellor) “He said it’s not really that good [for parents to hit their child] but it depends on what happened, or what the child did”. He said it depends on whether the child does something ‘really, really, really, really, really bad’, for example, ‘if they break a window on purpose’”.
  • (Counsellor) “The interpretation I got from this caller was that she thinks its OK to smack (‘a little tap on the bum’) but that if there are bruises, it is not OK.”
  • (Counsellor) “He said that parents should be allowed to hit their children because there were more students getting suspended from school than 10 years ago.”
  • [Getting a smack] should be ok…if they are disciplining them for playing up, they deserve it…but it shouldn’t be too hard.” “I behave a bit more when I get a smack.”

Of the 19 children quoted by Barnados, 11 think smacking is ok in some circumstances (but “hitting” may not be) and 8 disagree. That’s not what their media release would make you think.

The title of their media release (Smacking – “It’s wrong, full stop” say children) is  a blatant lie.

[Cross-posted at Yes Vote FAIL]

Smacking referendum campaign

The campaigning around the smacking referendum is heating up. The excellent Vote No website and blog has been lauched, while the Yes Vote website is spouting amusing nonsense. Check out the Yes Vote FAIL blog to see some of the best of it collated in one place for your amusement.

You can also download posters and brochures to encourage the 83% of the country that oppose the anti-smacking law to actually vote in the referendum, and send John Key a message that he would ignore at his own political peril.

Happy debating and campaigning, whatever side you are on!

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Mrs Dennis is a right social moderate

My Political Views
I am a right social moderate
Right: 3.25, Libertarian: 0.94

Political Spectrum Quiz

Didn’t I pick a good wife, she’s so close to me!

Scrubone has compiled a lot of bloggers on the one chart, it is an interesting read.

I am a right moderate social libertarian, apparantly

My Political Views
I am a right moderate social libertarian
Right: 6.37, Libertarian: 1.11

Political Spectrum Quiz

Thanks to KG for the link. This is an interesting quiz. However no quiz is perfect at ascertaining your political views. This one:

  • Classes pro-life views as “authoritarian”, despite many libertarians also holding them for scientific reasons.
  • Does not distinguish between the freedom to sodomise each other and the freedom to marry when discussing “gay rights”, making it difficult to know how to answer some questions.
  • Is very USA-focussed especially when asking about foreign policy.

But an interesting result nonetheless. Where do you sit on it?

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