Two young children are to be adopted by a gay couple, despite the protests of their grandparents.
The devastated grandparents were told they would never see the youngsters again unless they dropped their opposition.
Right, this is completely wrong on so many levels. Certainly I don’t like the idea of gay adoption. But the biggest issue is
Why is the State dictating who raises the children at all?
This should be the decision of their family. The State has no business taking children away from a loving family, full stop.
KG at Crusader Rabbit asks “Time for insurrection?“. I don’t know if they are serious or not. But taking people’s children away is serious business, and some otherwise law-abiding people will feel forced into violence to protect them, especially in the heat of the moment. Policies like this could certainly lead to civil unrest, if not armed revolt. Hopefully our government can have the sense to step back and not provoke people into that.
Samuel Dennis 
January 30, 2009 at 7:21 am
“Why is the State dictating who raises the children at all?”
Because the people have demanded it thats why!.
“his should be the decision of their family” under any circumstances? suppose the family is being abusive? suppose they are slowly killing them?
“Policies like this could certainly lead to civil unrest, if not armed revolt. ” sounds like it should be up on a beer billboard followed by the txt “yeah right!”
Nothing like this will ever ever result in civil unrest in this country!
“Hopefully our government can have the sense to step back and not provoke people into that.”
The people have asked them to do this so why would this happen?
Sb
January 30, 2009 at 9:00 am
Sb:
““his should be the decision of their family” under any circumstances? suppose the family is being abusive? suppose they are slowly killing them?”
I actually specified a “loving family”. If they are killing them they are not a “loving family” and there may be reason to intervene. That is certainly not the case here.
““Policies like this could certainly lead to civil unrest, if not armed revolt. ” sounds like it should be up on a beer billboard followed by the txt “yeah right!””
Do you have any children? What would you do if someone broke into your house and kidnapped them? I expect you’d fight with every ounce of strength in your body, because the strongest instinct of any parent is to protect their children.
What if the person taking the children had an official uniform and a state permit? Would it make any difference to the emotions you felt? Can you see how some families are bound to fight back even under these circumstances, despite the cold, logical fact that such conflict may make the situation a lot worse?
““Why is the State dictating who raises the children at all?”
Because the people have demanded it thats why!.”
And what gives the rest of the population the authority to dictate how one family raises their children? In fact, the people have NOT demanded this, I understand most of Scotland is against gay adoption – but even if they were for it, that would make no difference, they still have no right to steal children from a loving family.
January 30, 2009 at 9:29 am
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January 30, 2009 at 9:34 am
What you said was “civil unrest”
Civil unrest is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_disorder
Parades/riots that sort of thing – that is not what you are saying in your comment above. What you are describing is personal resistance to officers of the law. Unfit parents abusers etc will resist just as much as “loving parents.”
In the case above you are joining several issues together. Should the children be adopted is a different issue to who should they be adopted by.
The grandparents above no matter how loving are simply to old and to unwell to raise children of that age.
Sb
January 30, 2009 at 9:50 am
Certainly, a few isolated cases may remain as just personal resistance to officers of the law. But if such a practice became widespread, it could boil over into something more. When a truly “unfit” parent has their children taken away, the community doesn’t stand behind them because it was justified. But what if a number of perfectly fit parents have their children taken away? Will not many people start to support their cause? Where could it lead?
I am not saying it certainly would lead to civil unrest, too many people may be too resigned to socialist interference by now to actually stand up for their rights. But it could do.
Certainly those grandparents may not be able to raise the children themselves. But they are family, the children are ultimately their responsibility, and it should therefore be them who decide who adopts the children.
January 30, 2009 at 10:45 am
” Will not many people start to support their cause?”
Unfortunately history suggests nothing would happen.
“Where could it lead?”
Again history suggests nothing more than noise from talking heads!
I suspect you underestimate the power of ” its not my problem” and “SOMEBODY should do something”
“and it should therefore be them who decide who adopts the children.”
And if in 10 years time the girl is pregnant because they were to old and infirm to control and mentor her but still refused to request help, will you still stand by the decision?
January 30, 2009 at 11:50 am
“I suspect you underestimate the power of ” its not my problem” and “SOMEBODY should do something””
Sadly, you may be right.
“And if in 10 years time the girl is pregnant because they were to old and infirm to control and mentor her but still refused to request help, will you still stand by the decision?”
Yes. Because you can’t expect the State to solve every problem. In this case the couple know they are old and are quite willing for the children to be adopted out – just not to two gay men. In most circumstances the family will want to do what is best for their children.
January 30, 2009 at 7:54 pm
My usual subtle and politically correct response to a case such as this was a bit too long for a comment:
http://kiwipolemicist.wordpress.com/2009/01/30/pure-evil-social-workers-give-children-to-gay-couple-for-adoption-despite-wishes-of-grandparents/
January 31, 2009 at 8:47 am
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